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KM's avatar

For the first time today, I confided to a close friend that I had been vaccine injured. First time I'd told anyone. I was very nervous as I had no idea how she'd react. I said "I'm going to say something controversial, I was injured by a vaccine". Her response? "That's not controversial! You're putting a foreign substance in your body. It's like any medicine - some people are going to have reactions or adverse effects or whatever....". Indeed! Why is this so hard? As in, why is this such a big hurdle, so hard for people to comprehend? And yet, until I was injured, I was pro-vax....

Anne Dachel's avatar

Until now, vaccines have been the sacred cows of medicine. No one could say anything against them. That will change.

KM's avatar

It beggars belief that the industry went crying to Congress saying too many people are getting injured by the vaccines, please remove liability! And Congress goes, "Sure! Done!" and not, "well, what is wrong with the vaccines???".

Warrior Mom's avatar

I love the fact that Joe Rogan was convinced by Bobby's encyclopedic knowledge of the topic simply because he (Joe) was literally the FIRST influential person in media willing to allow Bobby to actually speak unhindered. I know Joe has his detractors but I honestly don't understand how anyone can criticize open-mindedness; it used to be perceived as a positive personality trait but somehow the public has been convinced its now a flaw. what the frack?

Anne Dachel's avatar

I think the big fear is, where is this all going? What if it is clearly understood that an unsafe vaccine schedule has damaged multiple generations of children around the world?

Warrior Mom's avatar

mostly agree, Anne. I think we need to err on the side of pragmatism. optimism is all fine and well, maybe even justified right now, but us veterans know that pharma OWNS the media (& pols). we certainly can't count them out just because a little light is being shone into the room. we're already hearing the shrill hysteria of their minions, 'omg we're all gonna die from measles' (if RFK jr has his insane way!) and 'vaccines are the ONLY thing that stops millions from dying of xyz disease'.

sure more & more are becoming aware of the magnitude of the harm and pharma is scrambling to plug the holes in the dyke but I don't see an event (yet) that's gonna crash it all down in a large-scale awakening. too many still believe in the cult of vaccine.

Anne Dachel's avatar

They need to show us two studies. First show us the safety studies that were done before these vaccines were licensed. Then do a study of fully vaccinated and never vaccinated. Children to show health outcomes. There are plenty of unvaccinated children out there now. These are very logical studies and they would prove safety or they will expose the whole phony program.

Warrior Mom's avatar

we know this data exists. the problem is getting others to actually LOOK at it. many never will. but by all means, lets pray that more DO.

I know in my my own life, that when I point this out to cult members, they either deny the existence of this data/proof or insist that those presenting the data have an 'agenda'. if you ask what that agenda might be... *crickets*

Anne Dachel's avatar

And what Kennedy is always saying is that there never were safety studies done before these vaccines were licensed.